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of that fiscal cliff to a gentle, let's say, bunny slope. we have a fragile economy, but it's accelerating and it's predicted as this year to grow. it grew at 2% to goh at 3% or more this coming year so you want this skier, so to speak to go down the slope and pick up speed so when you do come to the grand bargain that has $3 trillion of debt reduction. all they've got to do is shoulder 1 billion, changing the scale and put the rest of that in the following nine years and that's something that they'll come up with. >> where do they find it? there are various places, and just that, there's $118 billion if you didn't do the payroll tax extension holiday and if you didn't do that at $250,000, that's almost the same equivalent amount or if you wanted to step back and say hey, let's make sure that these defensive, domestic sequestration cuts of $100 billion and half of that and you can take smalles poohes of that and come up to $100 million and know that it will grow close to 3%. that's the key, and that's why they're behind closed doors today. coming up with that, you don't have to have it done by ja
before the u.s. economy goes over the fiscal cliff, law marriages are pointing fingers and playing the blame game. >> mario monti is saying he's available to lead italy, but only for a party willing to push his economic agenda. >> but he has competition in the form of sylvia berlusconi, italy's former prime minister tells cnbc he feels a responsibility to run. >> translator: i feel the need to return to the political arena to prevent the country from being delivered into the hands of a leftist party. >> and the crowds are out, the stores are ringing up those sales. but u.s. shoppers, they may be running lower on holiday spirit and analysts are saying that they're spending less, as well. >>> if you're just tuning in, thank you so much for joining us on the show here. a bit of a pre-christmas special for you. these are how the markets are looking at the u.s. open. still looking very negative. we had a high volume session on friday where the markets pulled back about 1% across the board. the markets are still in positive tear over to. but nonetheless, the negative sentiment around the
-called fiscal cliff, our economy is coming back, but it's still very tenuous. this is the last thing that we want to see happen, and both sides need to get together and work this out. >> mayor parker, have you taken a stand on where you think the negotiations should go at this point? whether it be on the union side or the maritime side? >> i'm a big believer of doing negotiating at the bargaining contain table. i have to do a lot of negotiations with my unions. they just need to get back together and work this out. the crux of the matter is on royalty payments that were put in decades ago to soften the blow of moving to automated containerized ar ccargo. it's certainly time to move forward to a new agreement. you can't just cling to the past forever, but both sides are going to have to give and move this forward. this is bad for the u.s. economy. and it will have ripple effects around the world. >> mayor parker, thank you for your time. >> we're down 83 on the dow. let's get a market flash back at hq. brian? >> simon, some pending home sales came in high. in fact, the highest level in two an
. we have 1400 employees around the world. the fiscal cliff is scary. another recision, higher unemployment, economic slowdown. tax money taken out of the economy. those are major concerns. we're going to have to react as a business and it could result in cut backs. the fiscal cliff was meant to be something that nobody wanted to go anywhere near and here we are about to go off it. we really need our elected officials to figure this out, keep our economy growing and gives us some certainty about the future so we can make our plans as business leaders. we're all having such a great year in the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. 'cause all our states are great. and now is when the gulf gets even better. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride or just lay in the sun. enjoy the wildlife and natural beauty. and don't forget our amazing seafood. so come to the gulf, you'll have a great time. especially in alabama. you mean mississippi. that's florida. say louisiana or there's no dessert. brought to you by bp and all of us who call the gulf home.
list again? ho ho ho! >> forget the fiscal cliff. eric: forget the fiscal cliff, what about a container cliff and what that might do to the economy. a a nasty standoff between union workers and the companies could cripple the nation. unless two groups reach a deal, theyun planted strike down plano strike this weekend.if if the strike happened, some reports estimate for a billion dollars per day. >> there's no question, use the righte words, cripple the economy. the backbone of the trade on the export and import, eric. about $100 billion or more comes in and out where you have to have these strikes. co it is very devastating and could reverberate throughout thees country. food distributors, everybody would be affected by this strike if it goesrd forward. eric: what do the unions want and what is management willing to do, how far apart are these two groups? >> normally in a dispute with the unions it is about wages and benefits in this case it is not. what the unions are objecting to with reports i have been seeingu is new work rules andort deficiencies that support systems want to put i
now and there is still no deal preventing the economy from going over that now infamous fiscal cliff. members of congress are still pointing fingers over who is to blame for the lack of progress. to prevent the tax hikes and spending cuts from aching effect january 1st. meanwhile, connecticut's independent senator, joe lieberman, expects congress to work right up until the new year's eve deadline. he's not sure that will be enough. >> it's the first time that i feel like it's more likely that we'll go over the cliff than not. if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. >> the president and congress are on short holiday breaks. they're due back later in the week. one possibility in all of this mess is a partial deal on taxes while putting off agreement on spending until some time down the road. >>> former president george h.w. bush may be spending christmas in the hospital. he's been there since thanksgiving. he's battling bronchitis and a lingering cough. doctors say he's in stable condition but needs to
troubles for the u.s. economy if a deal to avert the fiscal cliff cannot be reached. jpmorgan's chief u.s. economist will join us live a little later on to explain the biggest risks in his view now that investors face. we're back in two. >>> if lawmakers fail to create a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff by january 1st, federal work study will be cut by over $76 million. and over 51,000 fewer students would receive aid. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. i'd like to be optimistic. but it looks like they're going to blow. >> the real linchpin is whether john boehner can bring his troops along. that's a real tough one
should lawmakers fail to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. >>> going over the fiscal cliff could have a huge impact on the local economy. thousands of people can lose their jobs, especially federal employees and government contractors. the defense industry could face billions of dollars in cuts. >> the third largest number of federal employees and probably the largest single number of federal contractors. so that federal nexus is really important to our economy. we need to end the uncertainty. >> economists say it's possible for us to "step over" the cliff. that means lawmakers will reach some kind of a deal in a few weeks after the new year begins. >>> breaking news right now. russia's president, vladimir putin, signed a controversial bill banning americans from adopting russian children. it goes into effect january 1st. there are estimates this could affect more than 1500 adoptions currently under way. the ban is widely viewed as retaliation for recent u.s. law targeting russians who abuse human rights. for a closer look at russia's proposed ban adoption, tune in to the "today"
on everyone immediately. if washington can't come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> you have less money in a difficult economy with little clarity. >> the economy will go down sharply. >> look at the number from the tax policy center. this is the average tax hit the families take on top of what they pay on taxes. those make between $40,000 and $50,000 pay extra $1700. >> if you manage to make over $200,000, it will be a big jump up. you will need to send a check to uncle sam for $14,000 initial dollars. $500,000 to $1 million pays $34,000 more. they want $215,000 on top of what you pay in taxes. >> the wealth manager says the money you have left as far as businesses also deal with their own tax hikes. >> you are going to see less money in your paycheck. >> the government has to bite the bullet with $1.2 trillion in spending cuts. more than half of that is to the defense budget. >> they say families may need austerity calculation before making big purchases. look at the money you have and the money you need in the future to decide if you need the next big picture. doug? >> doug: thank yo
cliff talks heading into the 11th hour. >> u.s. economy is at stake here. >> you cannot pass a bill with just republicans. on a broad thing like this, you need both. >> but will anyone rise above and get it done? a debate from both sides of the aisle. plus guest host jason trennert on the impact for the markets. >> the final details on retail. the winners and losers as last-minute shoppers make one final rush to get the latest deals. >> i got it. i got it. >> the second hour of "squawk box" starts right now. ♪ chestnuts roasting on an open fire. jack frast nipping at your nose. yuletide carols -- >> good morning. welcome to "squawk box" on cnbc. >> love that sweater. that's unbelievable. we've got to fade in and out between the fire and that sweater. >> that's joe kernen, i'm andrew ross sorkin. becky quick is probably happily off at this point. in studios with his,000s on the market and the fiscal cliff this morning, jason trennert. >> that tie. >> he's got the red tie. >> santa tie. >> take a look at the futures, see how this half day of trading is setting up. looks like the dow
-minute agreement, none will see the picket signs sunday. >> economist worried if we do go off the fiscal cliff, it's now averted strike would have combined for a deadly one-two punch to the u.s. economy. now the overall deal is at 100% signed off on by februar february 6, then we are right back to where we were this morning and again the national retail federation and the florida governor rick scott will be urging president obama to prevent a strike invoking the tap partly act and something not done since president george w. bush did it in 2002. back to you. >> doug: phil keating in miami. the so-called milk cliff that would also kick in to effect the lawmakers can't avoid the fiscal cliff they be averted now. hill source tells fox news and the senate agriculture leaders working on a year long extension of all farm programs. the source noted that the truman era law is so old it would take weeks to implement. even if the old law expires don't expect immediate spike if milk prices. >>> congress is still working to find agreement on the $60.4 billion emergency spending bill for hurricane sandy victim
. this isn't always a good sign about the economy. in the face of the fiscal cliff there is concern about what will happen with taxes and american consumers income in the new year. they're backing off of energy consumption. that is leading to lower prices. for the trading, overall volume is half of its 100 a average. we're seeing light participation in those markets and as of today crude down 8%. we are watching natural-gas prices as whether roles throughout the country. folks are using more natural gas pushing prices up, contrary to crude-oil prices going down, the energy report is daily, but it showed 72 cubic feet draw down in line with expectations but still a very big drawdown pushing prices higher. natural gas prices up 12% so far this year so folks are paying more to heat their homes than the same time last year. adam: thank yoo from the floor of the cme. retail sales of of the worst holiday season in four years. will there be discounts to help retailers close 2012 on a better note? joining us to talk about this is christian bets. may i call you kristy? >> yes you may. adam: a plea
. people have said that economists said concern about the fiscal cliff has already done damage. the economy, according to the cob is certain to fall back into recession and negative growth in the new year. is that higher taxes in a way a death knell for the economy or whole picture, of increased taxes and increased spending and no meaningful deficit reduction? >> we're seeing some effect already. you're seeing that in numbers on consumer confidence, on christmas season spending and business investment in hiring. the higher tacks is not the end of the republic. it is bad for growth. but we can still have a strong economy. but i do think we need to deal with uncertainty of what are taxes going forward. this cliff deal is short-term deal. we need leadership congressman was talking about. i wish it was there i agree with him what we really need going forward. lori: congressman rigell, one last comment from you with regards to confidence in washington of the americans are fed up with the wheeling and dealing in washington and no compromise. is there anything you can say to reinforce our confiden
about the economy even if you take the fiscal cliff off the table. the suggestion was actually that coming into this we're actually in a much better position given the housing situation, given some of the new energy things that are going on, that maybe all of this doom and gloom is unfounded. fair? unfair? >> fair. undoubtedly we're in a better position today than we were a year ago. the housing market has healed. companies, especially the big companies, are doing great. they have lots of cash, and consumer household balances are improving. so undoubtedly, the economy is healing slowly. but it's not healing at a critical mass. so unless government sorts out the headwinds, unless government corrects market failures and public goods issues, we're not going to have enough critical mass to get into higher growth, lower unemployment, and better income equality. that's the issue. >> that's the issue now. but mohamed, just going back and trying to figure out why the market hasn't reacted more strongly do this you think it's more of a bet on the fed than on the idea that we do see some
and really clarified what the fiscal cliff means to personal finance. that debate really seems to be acting, it's almost creating a sense of gravity that's pulling down different elements of the economies. >> now, remember what they're reporting here is a 0.7% gain in sales year on year. it's not about margins, not about excess inventory, not about how profitable they've been. that's why some of these stocks have fallen to an even greater extent as you can see. macy's, coach, gap, sears and nordstrom in negative territory. this is the first read we've had on the sales for the season until these guys come through one by one with their own figures. >> that's right. virtually every retailer down at this hour. weak sales of course heading into the holidays, but will retailers see a post-christmas bump? jane wells live at the grove in los angeles where card-carrying shoppers are looking for deals. >> reporter: people are here carrying bags in for returns, carrying bags out with new purchases, but some retailers are actually developing entire strategies for what's happening starting today. macy's
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to reach an agreement or the u.s. economy will go off the so- called "fiscal cliff." that's when automatic spending increases and cuts would take effect. reaching a deal won't be easy because both sides are involved in a high stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president we would be happy to look at wah he proposes but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline and as i said this is a conversation we should have had months ago. >> reporter: democrats want to extend the bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 or more a year. many republicans are against any tax increases. most americans just want something to be done. >> people are just tired of partisanship and they want everyone to come together. >> reporter: if lawmakers don't reach a deal by january 1, many economists are concerned it could eventually lead to another recession. i'm
the bill through without pulling the fiscal cliff, our economy will improve the tax revenues from that will be more than he would get from the rich now. host: appreciate the call. let's go to oklahoma, a line for republicans. caller: i am so disgusted with both political parties. it seems they are putting their party before their country. and i want these politicians to know they are the ones that have been up there for years and spent all this money and now the average person will be the one who will have to pay, and i believe they are being bought off by the 2%. right is right, wrong is wrong, and to take away from the needy and cut food stamps from people who qualify -- it takes an act of congress to qualify. i cannot understand that these people are protecting the 2% of the country. host: jefferson city, missouri, you are on. go ahead. caller: yeah, i think boehner should be removed from the speaker of the house, and president obama should be in and his entire staff, including hillary clinton. i do not know if you have noticed but nancy pelosi, her eyes are consistently dilate
the fiscal cliff dividend taxes could triple. and that would have a significantly negative impact on our economy's ability to sustain growth. and think about, you know, this idea, this false idea, frankly, that it won't impact anybody that makes less than 250,000 or whatever the cap is you want. >> right. >> our average age of people that own dividend-paying stocks is about 65 years old. their average income is between 70 to $75,000. yeah, they're not subject to the $250,000 but in fact, if you reduce the after tax yield of these kinds of investments that people select because of their low risk and they use the dividends to supplement their retirement income, if you reduce the after tax yield, stock values drop. we have already seen that. david: because of all this breaking news i want to bring you back and i really want to focus you a little more specifically and dividend tax is something you're hot about but i want to talk to you about whether you're getting squeezed. i'm looking at 300 to $400 billion gap the president will have even after the tax increases. i think he will go after y
ahead? steve liesman has that for us. >> this could be the fiscal cliff game at home report. now that there is a plan in motion, can you see some of the things that are in play here. the revenue side of the fiscal cliff $520 billion, spending side, $130 billion. some piece of that is going to go away if indeed they do end up capping the increases of those at $400,000, 450 and above. we don't know how much. perhaps the vast bulk of it could go away. no discussion on wlornt automatic spending cuts for this year would be affected at all. there's the total 650. impact of the total fiscal cliff this year and by way of contrast or comparison, here is the gdp effect. we gained in nominal terms and that's why going over the cliff means negative growth, it means a recession. here is some of the detail of what we ever talking about here. 620 billion. that's the total revenue. depends on which numbers you use. moving on, per capitia effect, it affects different people differently. 26.2 million is the number of americans that will see an increase in taxes subject to amt that alternate taxati
that the fiscal cliff is disadvantageous to the economy in terms of jobs and taxes but if we know we are going over the cliff that provides policy certainty that allows corporations to act within the certainty of the new tax regime that comes out of it and it will help the deficit. i am speaking anathema but that is certainty. shibani: 70 -- dennis: something wins and the economy could make stocks right at some point. thank you very much, jim laventhol. here's one retail segment that did great. gun, rifle and ammunition sales are skyrocketing following the backlash against guns at the connecticut elementary school. the world's largest supplier of firearms says it sold 3.5 years worth of ammunition clips for automatic weapons in just three days and a gun shop owner north carolina says gun sales for christmas or four times better than last year. many customers blame talk of stricter gun control for driving the rush. unintended consequences. let's look at gun stocks. the images that so smith and wesson, they are down. the middle of their sales are probably up. shibani: one of the most profitable
to reach an agreement or the u.s. economy will over the so- called fiscal cliff. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching their kids played soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should all be here. i told the president that i would be happy to look at what ever he proposes but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline here and as i said this is the conversation that we should have had months ago. >> democrats want to extend the bush era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making too much as $50,000 or more a year. if many republicans remain against any tax increases. >> former president george agent w. bush is still in intensive care at a houston hospital this morning. the former president's family is confident that he will be out of the i see you soon. the 88 year-old has been in the hospital for more than a month, after first coming down with bronchitis. >> it is nine 07 a.m.. we will be right back. there has been a major news from the gulf of mexico. here
... before the u-s economy goes over the poocclled "fiscal cliff." that's when automatic taxx increases and spending cuts would take effect. democrats wann to extend the bush-era tax cuts to everyone except ttose americans making 250- thousand dollars or more a year. but many republicans remain gginst any tax increases. if lawmakers don't peach a deal by january 1st... it could eventually lead to another recession. with all eyes on thh fiscal cliff... there's anothee deadline quickly approochinn that might have consumers concerned... the "milk cliff." it's part offa stalled farm bill... that includes nearlyy35-billioo- dollars in cuts. f the bill doesn't make it throuuh congress before the end of the year... the government will be forced tt buu vast quuntities of milk under a trummnnera law. that could send as 6 to 8 dollars ggllon... because the government would the wholeeale rate... under a pre-filed bill in the general assembly... is looking to make soft-shell crab... the official maryyand sannwicc.the senator richard colburn... an eastern shore dessert
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should just go over the fiscal cliff. swan dive over it. this is a spending trajectory and bury the economy if we go. i'm buying. >> andrea: there is not a deal sequestions ration. >> bob: first, everything you pass you retroactively do back to january 1. which they will do. not massive cut in spending right away. they won't allow people making less than $750,000 not have taxes. they won't allow fica to go back up. [over stalk ] >> bob: now you the debt ceiling. >> andrea: i want to get in here. you talk about the debt ceiling. i thought it was raised in february. isn't it suspect that all of a sudden turbo tax timmy puts out a letter saying with i'll hit the debt ceiling? if we go off the cliff, guess what that means? more revenue. credit rating agencies only care about revenue. we are likely to be just fine if we go off the cliff. >> bob: you said in the opening here. of course it's a game being played here. of course it is set up by obama. the republicans are in a big hole. >> greg: the only game more boring is soccer. >> kimberly: it's not. >> eric: nothing is more boring th
as members of congress return to washington to address the fiscal cliff. talks will take place behind closed doors. no public negotiations set. you have the debt and the fiscal cliff. it's not looking too good right now when it comes to the u.s. economy. >> geithner told congressional leaders that his department is using some accounting measures basically a fancy way of saying they're going to free up cash to hold off temporarily this fiscal cliff. but it's still not looking good. >> i don't know about you at home, but kicking the can down the road has been happening over and over again. somebody has to make some decisions here. >> it's like in this business, they give you a deadline and you have to hit the deadline. there's no coming in and saying take another ten minutes. it don't work that way in real life. there are americans out there saying get off your couches. get back to washington and get the deal done. >> sometimes it's not pretty when you have to rush, but get it done. >>> still on the economy now, new signs of a turn around in the real estate market. for the first time since 200
. >> eric: thousands of jobs and billions of dollars are at stake but this is no fiscal cliff. this is the looming port strike threatening to shut ports from boston, miami and beyond. florida governor rick scott telling the media a strike will be devastating to his state's economy. governor's right but it's an entire nation about to get slammed. brent is the president of miller and long construction. we import -- we pointed out somewhere around 65% of international trade hits the ports. we import cars, we import produce, we import oil and gas. explain how this will affect the prices for people watching right now of everything. >> well, it will be very significant in a lot of ways. we're talking about eleven ports, basically from boston pretty much all the way around to houston. the reason governor scott is concerned is there are four ports in florida that will be affected. this is containerized shipping. electronic goods, food stuff and things like that. it could be massive impact, especially in this -- we had retailers getting trouble getting back on track. it will affect eve
: well, we're still trying that last ditch effort to keep the economy from going over the fiscal cliff. lawmakers are heading back to washington including the president with this year-end deadline that's been on the horizon. welcome, everybody, great to have you here. brand new hour of "happening now." kelly: i'm kelly wright in for jon scott -- jamie: and i'm jamie colby in for jenna today. kelly: talks hitting a dead end last week, now most americans are facing big tax hikes unless the two sides can work out a last minute deal. chief white house correspondent ed henry with more. >> reporter: you're right, really all eyes turning to plan c. plan a was that $4 trillion debt deal, plan b was speaker boehner's idea about tax increases only for million dollar incomes and more, now turning to plan c which is president obama's idea which is to move it back to $250,000 or more, that would be the threshold for tax cuts or tax increases in the other direction, also dealing with two million people who are losing their unemployment benefits, president wants to the take care of that by the end of
, but a very traumatic and serious. they avoid the fiscal cliff. we are talking about over $607 billion worth of money taken out of the economy next year. lou: i just want to put up the next cartoon that we have. it matters not whih one you select. but this is one of my favorites. the debt commission saying it is very difficult. is very complicated and then cut spending. i don't think you could have cut better on to the essence of the issue. the absurdity creating obstacles to that relution in washington d.c. >> but the problem here is that frankly there is a fine and out of capital that can be used up their divided either in the private sector which creates businesses and jobs and federal revenue or given to the government which is just a bureaucracy ad creates nothing but burearatic management if you look at the lt gop congress andthe expenditures, about two and half trillion dollars and now the president's proposals are about 4 trillion in spending with deficits and increased. it is the economy. lou: it truly is. and i want to also if we may put up the cartoon. we do this very elegantly he
seems to be mesmerized by the discussion of the fiscal cliff in th and the , check stock prices were based on earnings outlooks in the economy. lori: everybody is ignoring the fundamentals right now. when we can we get back to the fundamentals and ignore politics, if ever a time in the picture? >> maybe the super bowl ads versus the fiscal cliff read lori: you make a great point, carry on. >> some point we will solve the fiscal cliff, kick the can down the road, have a grand bargain, no bargain, but it will be old news, not the current news. david: will be talking with the retail sector coming up, but we are getting a lot of mixed signals of what is happening this holiday season. what are you sensing? speak of the retail sector will perform well, just don't think it will exceed analyst or wall street expectations. i think everything that needed to be done in terms of consumer investment purchasing in the aftermath of sandy took place. on the other hand if you noticed that has not been a lot of promotions from the major retailers past the holiday weekend that kicked off. i believe ret
.com and ask your doctor about celebrex. for a body in motion. >> forget the fiscal cliff. how about a container cliff and what it may do to the economy. time's running short and a standoff between long shoreman union workers and companies could cripple the nation. unless they reach a deal they plan to strike this weekend. we reached out but haven't heard back yet. steve moore is here with us. if the strike happens, some estimates say $1 billion per day hit to the economy. >> yeah, there's no question. if you -- you used the right word, cripple the economy. the ports in this country are the backbone of our trade, both export and imports and i've read estimates of $100 billion or more comes in and out. so it cook devastating, and reverberate throughout the economy. retailers, wholesalers. food distributors, everybody would be affected by the strike if it goes forward. >> exactly what do the unions want and what is management willing to do? how far apart are the two groups? >> it's interesting. they're not really -- normally in a wage dispute with the union,ettes it's about wages and b
their way, will everyone pay? >> forget the fiscal cliff. how about a container cliff and what it m do to the economy. time's running short and a standoff between long shoreman union workers and companies could cripple the nation. unless they reach a dea they plan to strike this weekend. we reached out but haven't heard back yet. steve moore is here with us. if th strike happens, some estimates say $1 billion per day hit to the economy. >> yeah, the's no question. if you -- you used the right word, cripple the economy. the ports in this country are the backbone of our trade, both export and imports and i've read estimates of $100 billion or more comes in and out. so it cook devastating, and reverberate throughout the economy. retailers, whesalers. food distributors, everybody would be affected by the strike if it goes forward. >> exactly what do the unions want and what is management willing to do? how far apart arehe two groups? >> it's inresting. they're not really -- normally in a wage dispute with the union,ettes it's about wages and benefits but in this case it's not. what the uni
the fiscal cliff, the fiasco as well as the debt ceiling debacle. richard, how is this playing out? we understand richard is not here. we're going to talk to richard a little later about this. >>> eurovision, a singing competition, a lot like "american idol." it's popular, trendy, everybody's watching it. it launched the careers of abba and celine dion. now the radio show which is paid for by the countries that participate in it, it's now in trouble. the economy is to blame. here's our reporter. ♪ >> reporter: cheesy music. kitsch costumes. ♪ and national stereotypes. ♪ for 58 years, the eurovision song contest has united europeans in a celebration of music and at times laughter. ♪ but as countries struggle to meet budget targets, frills are starting to take a back seat. portugal, poland, slovakia and boz that herzegovina say they're pulling out of the competition because they can't afford to win. the czech republic and greece are also reported to want out. >> it costs to perform, and it costs to stage it. and what do you get back? bluntly a bunch of hoopla and a few pom-poms.
. you're in "the situation room." the u.s. is now just six days away from the so-called fiscal cliff. and a mad scramble is on here in washington to avoid the drastic tax hikes and spending cuts that many fear will plunge the economy back into recession. president obama flies back from hawaii tonight to be ready if the senate comes back with a plan when it returns to work tomorrow. and house leaders are huddling with members on stand-by to return. senior congressional correspondent dana bash is following all of it for us. what are you hearing? >> there was a conference call of course members of the house leadership even, they're back in their districts, but there was a conference call today among those house republican leaders trying to figure out if and when the house should come back into session. two republican sources tell me they did not make a decision on this call. it's still up in the air. and a big reason for that is if anything can get done in the next six days, the ball is in the senate's court. the capitol is a ghost town. neither chamber in session. an eerie calm since t
with an economy that is struggling possibly even a one-two punch with a fiscal cliff and strike. all this could return 30 days from now. >> indeed. phil, thank %ou. obesity rates in america have been growing quickly and steadily for decades. but finally a sliver of good news about the country's health. the new numbers on your children are next. [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8. or...try kids boxes! >>> a potential bright spot is in the battle against childhood obesity. obese rates among young children in low income homes dipped. the rate began dropping 8 or 9 years ago and by 2010 fell below 15%. while the drop was comparatively small, researchers say it's the first study to show it may be on the decline after tripling the last 30 years. with us, doctor kerry peterson. doctor, good to see you. are you encouraged? >> i am. even though it's modest, we're taking a turn in the right direction. it was a large study, loo
, an active government. remember, the economy was going off a cliff. a real cliff. and not a symbolic fiscal cliff. i mean, but it was a real economic cliff, over which we had no control at all. he took the reins and prevented another great depression. we had a very, very deep recession and we are still in the gravitational pull of that deep recession, but a lot of conservative republicans, many of whom had been elected in 2010, they looked at what president obama had done with regard to the stimulus package, and everything else, and they said, this is simply too much government. we hate government, we don't want government. and we were elected on a very ideological platform of shrinking the federal government. of kind of an anti-government obsession, of the sort that we haven't seen in this country in decades. >> all right. well, we're looking for the isaac newton to free us from that gravitational pull of these republican ideologues. robert reich, thank you so very much. and our sincere apologies to amanda turco of "the huffington post," who was unable to join us due to technical difficult
are great, so died in. >> the overall economy is doing quite well except we have the fiscal cliff issue. if you look at the employment situation that has stabilized and showing an improvement, you look at what is going on in the united states as far as manufacturing is concerned, housing prices have done well, housing sales of the unwelcome consumers, they still want to spend the being put off by this issue. lori: what sectors of i jump into? >> it will be extremely difficult but what you want to do is concentrate on things like financials, they will see a major rebound once we get some compromise. you will look at energy because we will look at consumer discretion and have exposure to the technology sector. lori: what is the mistake investors are making in the midst of this? >> getting wrapped up with this noise. a deal will come down but if you wait for the bottom to come, a market breaking apart, all hell breaking loose you will miss out because you'll be sitting on the sidelines. do some buying as the market pulls back and don't worry about catching a falling knife. tracy: don't fig
. >> coming at the same time as the fiscal cliff impasse it's a potentially devastating one-two punch for the u.s. economy. neither the longshoreman's union nor the northern alliance would give us anyone to speak on camera but officials with knowledge of the negotiations say it boils down to one issue -- the key sticking point is over those large containers and the payments that longshoremen get for them. the shipping companies pay royalties to the longshoremen for the containers based on their weight but the shipping companies want to freeze the royalty payments for current longshoremen and eliminate them completely for future hires. the longshoremen say the royalties are designed to make up for jobs lost to automation. strike would only affect ports that handle containers, not other cargo like automobiles, but if the shipping companies lock out the longshoreman -- >> that would impact more than containers. that would impact all cargos at ports, so that would have obviously a much more impactful reaction. >> reporter: how impactful? scher says east coast and gulf coast ports handled
- called fiscal cliff. what we also have facing us starting tomorrow are automatic spending cuts that are scheduled to go into effect. keep in mind that some of the spending cuts that congress has said will automatically go into effect have an impact on our defense department but they also have an impact on things like head start. some programs that are scheduled to be cut and we're using an ax instead of a scalpel. they may not always be the smartest cuts. that is a piece of business that still has to be taking care of. i want to make clear that any agreement that we have to deal with these automatic spending cuts that are being threatened for next month, polls also have to be balanced. our principal has always been to do things in a balanced responsible way. that means revenue has to be part of the equation. the same is true for any future deficit agreement. obviously we're going to have to do more to reduce our debt and deficit. i'm willing to do more. it is going to have to be balanced. it has to be a balanced and responsible way. i'm willing to reduce our government's medic
force one early this morning and headed for washington to deal with unfinished fiscal cliff business. with just five days until the combination of automatic tax increases and spending cuts that could send the economy back into recession, mr. obama wants congress to take the lead in getting the job done. the senate convenes later today and senate majority leader harry reid told members to be prepared to address fiscal cliff issues through the weekend. reid is working on his own plan to get lawmakers to come together before the end of the year deadline. that plan would likely include letting the bush tax cuts expire for households making more than $250,000 a year and short term spending cuts instead of the massive long-term cuts that would happen if there is no deal. after our wednesday conference call, house republican leaders issued a statement saying they were waiting for the democratic controlled senate. the house will take this action on whatever the senate can pass they said but the senate first must act. in a sign of public frustration over the lack of a de
until we all go over the fiscal cliff which would mean everyone's taxes will go up and sharp spending cuts will go effect that could drive our economy back into recession. to abc news white house correspondent jonathan karl filling in today for george stephanopoulos as host of abc's "this week." >> hey, jon, good morning. i know today and tomorrow obviously hugely important. can you sort of walk us through the potential order of operations? what could we see play out today and tomorrow? >> well, it is right down to the wire, dan. what's happening right now is harry reid and mitch mcconnell, the top democrat and republican in the senate are still negotiating their staffs at this hour. they are supposed to be working until about 3:00 this afternoon when the plan would be presented to both caucuses. as we understand what they are talking about is the bare minimum. basically the senate negotiating to extend those tax cuts for everybody making under $250,000 a year and do extend unemployment benefits also they're talking about trying to do something to stop the automatic spending cuts that
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